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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s too easy to get a gun in Illinois</title>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/7070/buying_a_gun/comment-page-1/#comment-72544</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guns= FREEDOM</description>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
		<link>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/7070/buying_a_gun/comment-page-1/#comment-71065</link>
		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Let&#039;s turn the question back to you.  Did you read the PDF attached and Mike&#039;s post?  The statistic came out of a lawsuit NAACP v. AcuSport, Inc., (a suit that appears to have been dismissed by Judge Weinstein out of New York).  What the PDF article does state is 1/10 of 1% (that&#039;s one tenth of one percent) of gun dealers make up those 120 &quot;High Crime Gun Stores&quot; and that those stores account for at least 15% crime guns.  Further, the PDF states that it has been reported that 1% of the gun dealers are traced to 57% of the guns involved in a crime.  The article implies that most of these dealers are usually uncooperative with police or has a history of reporting arms stolen.  This would imply that a very small number of dealers are shady and they account for a disproportional number of guns involved in a crime.  What I believe Mike was eluding to is that no one in their right mind thinks that Chucks Guns followed the letter or the spirit of the gun laws already on the books.  But, we can&#039;t paint the majority of gun dealers with the same broad brush.  I&#039;d like to see true statistics on how many doctors write scripts for medications for people who only use it to feed their addictions.  That doesn&#039;t mean all doctors (or even the majority of doctors) are bad.  Nor should we stop producing and selling prescription drugs.  It just means we need to go after the bad apples so to speak.  As Mike points out, bad people do bad things and unfortunately sometimes they use guns.  There are extremists on both sides of the issue on guns and gun control. However, the right for law abiding citizens to protect themselves needs to be protected.  

I&#039;m not a gun owner and I&#039;m not necessarily for students on campus carrying guns (let&#039;s see, much excessive use of alcohol on campus and the carrying of guns, doesn&#039;t sound like a good plan). However, it is hard to deny that if someone responsible had a gun at that hall at NIU on the day of the killings, they could have saved lives.  And if you come from a town where one of those killed came live, you might see things in that light.

By the way, who are &quot;You people&quot; anyway?  More importantly, I&#039;ve personally seen blatant misinformation and out and out fabrication in many &quot;reputable&quot; publications (on many topics).  This doesn&#039;t mean that all or even most articles overtly try and mislead.  However, many articles give slanted (even if accurate) statistics or half points that lead readers to a certain conclusion.  It is every reader’s responsibility to not just &quot;let journalists make reports&quot;.  We must ask responsible questions less we become blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s turn the question back to you.  Did you read the PDF attached and Mike&#8217;s post?  The statistic came out of a lawsuit NAACP v. AcuSport, Inc., (a suit that appears to have been dismissed by Judge Weinstein out of New York).  What the PDF article does state is 1/10 of 1% (that&#8217;s one tenth of one percent) of gun dealers make up those 120 &#8220;High Crime Gun Stores&#8221; and that those stores account for at least 15% crime guns.  Further, the PDF states that it has been reported that 1% of the gun dealers are traced to 57% of the guns involved in a crime.  The article implies that most of these dealers are usually uncooperative with police or has a history of reporting arms stolen.  This would imply that a very small number of dealers are shady and they account for a disproportional number of guns involved in a crime.  What I believe Mike was eluding to is that no one in their right mind thinks that Chucks Guns followed the letter or the spirit of the gun laws already on the books.  But, we can&#8217;t paint the majority of gun dealers with the same broad brush.  I&#8217;d like to see true statistics on how many doctors write scripts for medications for people who only use it to feed their addictions.  That doesn&#8217;t mean all doctors (or even the majority of doctors) are bad.  Nor should we stop producing and selling prescription drugs.  It just means we need to go after the bad apples so to speak.  As Mike points out, bad people do bad things and unfortunately sometimes they use guns.  There are extremists on both sides of the issue on guns and gun control. However, the right for law abiding citizens to protect themselves needs to be protected.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a gun owner and I&#8217;m not necessarily for students on campus carrying guns (let&#8217;s see, much excessive use of alcohol on campus and the carrying of guns, doesn&#8217;t sound like a good plan). However, it is hard to deny that if someone responsible had a gun at that hall at NIU on the day of the killings, they could have saved lives.  And if you come from a town where one of those killed came live, you might see things in that light.</p>
<p>By the way, who are &#8220;You people&#8221; anyway?  More importantly, I&#8217;ve personally seen blatant misinformation and out and out fabrication in many &#8220;reputable&#8221; publications (on many topics).  This doesn&#8217;t mean that all or even most articles overtly try and mislead.  However, many articles give slanted (even if accurate) statistics or half points that lead readers to a certain conclusion.  It is every reader’s responsibility to not just &#8220;let journalists make reports&#8221;.  We must ask responsible questions less we become blind.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/7070/buying_a_gun/comment-page-1/#comment-39031</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, did you just question Sam&#039;s authorship of the article?  &quot;The &#039;author&#039;...&quot;  You people just can&#039;t let journalists make reports.  Did you do your own check on the store that sold those guns?  Did you even read the hyperlinked pdf of his source?  It&#039;s despicable that a small group of gun fanatics will bombard every local article with misinformation and terror-insighting rhetoric that&#039;s based not on information but on what a bunch of gun salesmen and country hunters say to keep the weapons market thriving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, did you just question Sam&#8217;s authorship of the article?  &#8220;The &#8216;author&#8217;&#8230;&#8221;  You people just can&#8217;t let journalists make reports.  Did you do your own check on the store that sold those guns?  Did you even read the hyperlinked pdf of his source?  It&#8217;s despicable that a small group of gun fanatics will bombard every local article with misinformation and terror-insighting rhetoric that&#8217;s based not on information but on what a bunch of gun salesmen and country hunters say to keep the weapons market thriving.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/7070/buying_a_gun/comment-page-1/#comment-36698</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;author&quot; of this article is typical of an uninformed anti-gun minded moron that doesn&#039;t have any idea what they are talking about.  The part about the police giving the thumbs up or down on a gun purchase is incorrect.  Every gun sale is subject to a instant back ground check.  That is Federal law.  2370 guns sold in 5 years linked to crime in from one gun shop?  Seriously! That is 474 guns per year, over one per every calender day of the year.  Wow.  Do people really believe that this shop owner ran 2370 back ground checks, all were approved, all customer had FOID cards, and all guns were traced to crimes?  Is anyone that gullable?  And hey brilliant author person, internet sales have to be transferred through a federally licensed dealer.  I know these anti-gun types would have you believe that you can just point and click and have a gun sent right to your door step, no questions asked, but guess what?  Doesn&#039;t work that way!  BTW, had someone at Virginia Tech or up here in Illinois had a concealed carry permit,  the situation could have been halted as fast as it started. Think about it, these jerk off campus shooters know that the campus is gun free.  It&#039;s easier to shoot when there is no threat someone will shoot back.  Anti-gun people, like the author of this article, need to wake up and understand that sometimes bad people do bad things, and the responsible, law abiding citizen should be allowed to protect themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;author&#8221; of this article is typical of an uninformed anti-gun minded moron that doesn&#8217;t have any idea what they are talking about.  The part about the police giving the thumbs up or down on a gun purchase is incorrect.  Every gun sale is subject to a instant back ground check.  That is Federal law.  2370 guns sold in 5 years linked to crime in from one gun shop?  Seriously! That is 474 guns per year, over one per every calender day of the year.  Wow.  Do people really believe that this shop owner ran 2370 back ground checks, all were approved, all customer had FOID cards, and all guns were traced to crimes?  Is anyone that gullable?  And hey brilliant author person, internet sales have to be transferred through a federally licensed dealer.  I know these anti-gun types would have you believe that you can just point and click and have a gun sent right to your door step, no questions asked, but guess what?  Doesn&#8217;t work that way!  BTW, had someone at Virginia Tech or up here in Illinois had a concealed carry permit,  the situation could have been halted as fast as it started. Think about it, these jerk off campus shooters know that the campus is gun free.  It&#8217;s easier to shoot when there is no threat someone will shoot back.  Anti-gun people, like the author of this article, need to wake up and understand that sometimes bad people do bad things, and the responsible, law abiding citizen should be allowed to protect themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill W</title>
		<link>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/7070/buying_a_gun/comment-page-1/#comment-36104</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done nothing wrong why punish me.The state of Illinois wants to pass a bill that will mark every bullet casing I buy with my personal information ,this will raise the cost of a box of ammo over an average of $200.00 a box, where do you think the bad guys will get there ammo not from a store like I do?They will steal it from me now crime has increased with the possibility of identy theft becouse of a law that only hurts me!

  I&#039;ve done nothing wrong why punish me.I live in cook county and this is what my county thinks about me &quot;Larry Suffredin dismisses hunters, sportsmen and other lawful firearm owners as nothing more than criminals waiting to happen,&quot; fuel for the fire,just who is getting cooked here?   

  I&#039;ve done nothing wrong why punish me? The Illinois State Police is trying to abolish Youth Hunting/Shooting/Gun Safety Programs in Illinois,you must educate our youth this is the first step in gun control!

  I&#039;ve done nothing wrong why punish me? Young adults are having Illinois Firearm Owner Identification (FOID)denied by the Illinois state police due to a bogus age restriction they inforced with a excuse &quot; The Law Might Change &quot;Funny thing is that They still cash the checks,Wait a minute Who are the bad guys again?  

 I&#039;ve done nothing wrong why punish me?lets look at this in the other direction,Maybe its time we get the right to protect ourselves and I don&#039;t mean like the state police who recommend a nail file or a rat tailed comb or a set of keys to ward off your attacker,or like the Park district police at the state capital who are handing out plastic whistles that are bright yellow, red, blue or green.Park District Police Chief George Judd said, he hopes potential attackers &quot;see the whistles and are scared off.&quot; lets get real here people 48 out of 50 states have some sort of personal protection carry permit,Its proven it works look at all the numbers.Like I&#039;ve been saying I&#039;ve done nothing wrong why punish me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done nothing wrong why punish me.The state of Illinois wants to pass a bill that will mark every bullet casing I buy with my personal information ,this will raise the cost of a box of ammo over an average of $200.00 a box, where do you think the bad guys will get there ammo not from a store like I do?They will steal it from me now crime has increased with the possibility of identy theft becouse of a law that only hurts me!</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ve done nothing wrong why punish me.I live in cook county and this is what my county thinks about me &#8220;Larry Suffredin dismisses hunters, sportsmen and other lawful firearm owners as nothing more than criminals waiting to happen,&#8221; fuel for the fire,just who is getting cooked here?   </p>
<p>  I&#8217;ve done nothing wrong why punish me? The Illinois State Police is trying to abolish Youth Hunting/Shooting/Gun Safety Programs in Illinois,you must educate our youth this is the first step in gun control!</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ve done nothing wrong why punish me? Young adults are having Illinois Firearm Owner Identification (FOID)denied by the Illinois state police due to a bogus age restriction they inforced with a excuse &#8221; The Law Might Change &#8220;Funny thing is that They still cash the checks,Wait a minute Who are the bad guys again?  </p>
<p> I&#8217;ve done nothing wrong why punish me?lets look at this in the other direction,Maybe its time we get the right to protect ourselves and I don&#8217;t mean like the state police who recommend a nail file or a rat tailed comb or a set of keys to ward off your attacker,or like the Park district police at the state capital who are handing out plastic whistles that are bright yellow, red, blue or green.Park District Police Chief George Judd said, he hopes potential attackers &#8220;see the whistles and are scared off.&#8221; lets get real here people 48 out of 50 states have some sort of personal protection carry permit,Its proven it works look at all the numbers.Like I&#8217;ve been saying I&#8217;ve done nothing wrong why punish me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan K</title>
		<link>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/7070/buying_a_gun/comment-page-1/#comment-36043</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criminals will have guns. Period. Why further reduce the rights of law-abiding citizens, and their ability to defend themselves? Gun control laws only serve to skew dangerous situations more in favor of criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criminals will have guns. Period. Why further reduce the rights of law-abiding citizens, and their ability to defend themselves? Gun control laws only serve to skew dangerous situations more in favor of criminals.</p>
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