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		<title>By: A Student Who Read the God-Awful Thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Student Who Read the God-Awful Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone out there who says they read/liked the book: Just out of curiosity, do you agree with Levin&#039;s statement that what makes us superior to animals is property (which if you have owned more than one of any type of animals of the same species you can say is inherently false), the fact that between 1/4th and 1/3rd of his citations are from editorials and blogs, or his rants where he accuses Hispanic people of all being criminals, sexual deviants who get pregnant at the drop of a hat, and bring all manner of disease into this country?

Also, how do you respond to his assertion that America was founded by Christians? Last time I checked, Thomas Paine (infamous for writing Common Sense) wrote not one, but *TWO* papers blasting the church. In addition, to his final pamplet called &quot;Agrarian Justice&quot; where he advocated an inheritance tax, a social security system, and an amount of money to be paid out to everyone upon reaching maturity (Don&#039;t believe me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarian_Justice).

Also, Thomas Jefferson infamously said that &quot;Religion retreats before Science like witches at daylight&quot; and he, along with Madison, both went on an escapade to cut off all public funding to churches in Virginia.

Then there&#039;s the infamous Treaty of Tripolee, signed by George Washington and approved by all the Founding Fathers alive at the time, that states in its very beginnings &quot;America is not a Christian Nation&quot;.

On top of that, can you reconcile Levin&#039;s erronous statements in regards to &quot;Christians being the most tolerant people of them all&quot; only to go on and demonize atheists and Muslims?

In addition to that, what about his speech on how the consititution must be obeyed completely and totally, followed by his trumpeting of states opposing the constitution in the matter of slavery?

As for his opinions on FDR and claiming that &quot;rapid industrialization ended the depression&quot;, then I am to presume that all those tanks, planes, missiles, bullets, etc et al that the government bought during that time didn&#039;t have anything to do with it? Also, might I point out that most of his citations were from the Hoover Institute who, surprise surprise, says that it was FDR who prolonged the depression and attempts to exonerate Herbert Hoover? (If tables were turned and there was someone quoting some kind of Roosevelt Institute saying that FDR saved us from the depression and Hoover deepend/caused it, would you be apt to believe them?)

Then there are the statistics he shows, which has unemployment during Roosevelt&#039;s presidency steadily decreasing, along with the statement that &quot;Every government job created destroyed half a private sector job&quot; (Might I point out by simple mathematics that&#039;s not at all a bad situation?)

Also, how about his statement that &quot;Science is a dead end&quot;, while not recongizing the fact that if it wasn&#039;t for science things like the radio, the printing press, etc. would not be around, meaning he couldn&#039;t spread his message?

Or how about his criticism of Obama&#039;s speech about how in a globalized society, events all over the world affect us, while at the same time he trumpets George Bush&#039;s invasion of Iraq as a stroke of brilliance?

Then there is his terminology, re-labeling liberals statists, proudly proclaiming Republicans as Federalists, then going on in a few chapters later to bash Federalists of America&#039;s beginnings.

And, forgive me for making this statement because I know it will offend you greatly, but judging by your support of the Free Market I presume you very much approve of the drug trade going on throughout the world then and would not like it to be stomped out? After all, the drug trade is the only truly free market out there. Laissez-faire specifically states for there to be no rules and there are certainly no rules in that.

Also, after reading this book, I was both surprised and extremely, unbelievably sickened to see that Levin opposed the Rights of the Child and the Convention on All Forms of Discrimination Against Women. So he&#039;s all for child labor/prostitution? He&#039;s also for rape, enslavement, gang rape, and the general brutalization of women as well? There are some things so sickening that the idea of banning them in the harshest terms in writing should not even be given a second thought. Of course, he&#039;s ignoring the fact that they&#039;re *CONVENTIONS* as opposed to *INTERNATIONL LAWS* (unfortunantely). And then there&#039;s his false statement that we&#039;ve agreed to the Kyoto Protocols (they have yet to be signed).

How do you also reconcile his comment that he felt President Regan&#039;s General Amnesty of illegal immigrants to be a good idea, yet he feels the need for their immediate expulsion?

And what about his statement urging people to indoctrinate their children and grandchildren? If he is such a proponent of free choice, then would he really want that to happen? After all, you&#039;re not giving children much of a choice there. In fact, it&#039;s being downright oppressive and tyrannical I would say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone out there who says they read/liked the book: Just out of curiosity, do you agree with Levin&#8217;s statement that what makes us superior to animals is property (which if you have owned more than one of any type of animals of the same species you can say is inherently false), the fact that between 1/4th and 1/3rd of his citations are from editorials and blogs, or his rants where he accuses Hispanic people of all being criminals, sexual deviants who get pregnant at the drop of a hat, and bring all manner of disease into this country?</p>
<p>Also, how do you respond to his assertion that America was founded by Christians? Last time I checked, Thomas Paine (infamous for writing Common Sense) wrote not one, but *TWO* papers blasting the church. In addition, to his final pamplet called &#8220;Agrarian Justice&#8221; where he advocated an inheritance tax, a social security system, and an amount of money to be paid out to everyone upon reaching maturity (Don&#8217;t believe me? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarian_Justice)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarian_Justice)</a>.</p>
<p>Also, Thomas Jefferson infamously said that &#8220;Religion retreats before Science like witches at daylight&#8221; and he, along with Madison, both went on an escapade to cut off all public funding to churches in Virginia.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the infamous Treaty of Tripolee, signed by George Washington and approved by all the Founding Fathers alive at the time, that states in its very beginnings &#8220;America is not a Christian Nation&#8221;.</p>
<p>On top of that, can you reconcile Levin&#8217;s erronous statements in regards to &#8220;Christians being the most tolerant people of them all&#8221; only to go on and demonize atheists and Muslims?</p>
<p>In addition to that, what about his speech on how the consititution must be obeyed completely and totally, followed by his trumpeting of states opposing the constitution in the matter of slavery?</p>
<p>As for his opinions on FDR and claiming that &#8220;rapid industrialization ended the depression&#8221;, then I am to presume that all those tanks, planes, missiles, bullets, etc et al that the government bought during that time didn&#8217;t have anything to do with it? Also, might I point out that most of his citations were from the Hoover Institute who, surprise surprise, says that it was FDR who prolonged the depression and attempts to exonerate Herbert Hoover? (If tables were turned and there was someone quoting some kind of Roosevelt Institute saying that FDR saved us from the depression and Hoover deepend/caused it, would you be apt to believe them?)</p>
<p>Then there are the statistics he shows, which has unemployment during Roosevelt&#8217;s presidency steadily decreasing, along with the statement that &#8220;Every government job created destroyed half a private sector job&#8221; (Might I point out by simple mathematics that&#8217;s not at all a bad situation?)</p>
<p>Also, how about his statement that &#8220;Science is a dead end&#8221;, while not recongizing the fact that if it wasn&#8217;t for science things like the radio, the printing press, etc. would not be around, meaning he couldn&#8217;t spread his message?</p>
<p>Or how about his criticism of Obama&#8217;s speech about how in a globalized society, events all over the world affect us, while at the same time he trumpets George Bush&#8217;s invasion of Iraq as a stroke of brilliance?</p>
<p>Then there is his terminology, re-labeling liberals statists, proudly proclaiming Republicans as Federalists, then going on in a few chapters later to bash Federalists of America&#8217;s beginnings.</p>
<p>And, forgive me for making this statement because I know it will offend you greatly, but judging by your support of the Free Market I presume you very much approve of the drug trade going on throughout the world then and would not like it to be stomped out? After all, the drug trade is the only truly free market out there. Laissez-faire specifically states for there to be no rules and there are certainly no rules in that.</p>
<p>Also, after reading this book, I was both surprised and extremely, unbelievably sickened to see that Levin opposed the Rights of the Child and the Convention on All Forms of Discrimination Against Women. So he&#8217;s all for child labor/prostitution? He&#8217;s also for rape, enslavement, gang rape, and the general brutalization of women as well? There are some things so sickening that the idea of banning them in the harshest terms in writing should not even be given a second thought. Of course, he&#8217;s ignoring the fact that they&#8217;re *CONVENTIONS* as opposed to *INTERNATIONL LAWS* (unfortunantely). And then there&#8217;s his false statement that we&#8217;ve agreed to the Kyoto Protocols (they have yet to be signed).</p>
<p>How do you also reconcile his comment that he felt President Regan&#8217;s General Amnesty of illegal immigrants to be a good idea, yet he feels the need for their immediate expulsion?</p>
<p>And what about his statement urging people to indoctrinate their children and grandchildren? If he is such a proponent of free choice, then would he really want that to happen? After all, you&#8217;re not giving children much of a choice there. In fact, it&#8217;s being downright oppressive and tyrannical I would say.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idiot didn&#039;t even read the book! His entire review was about the jacket cover and the table of contents. There isn&#039;t one comment about the book&#039;s actual contents! Zalman Kelber, YOU ARE ONE OF THE MINDLESS DRONES THAT THIS BOOK IS WARNS US OF! You don&#039;t have anything substantive to write about this book, because there is nothing within the book covers that you can refute! Join the rest of us in the real world, why don&#039;t you? This is an excellent book, written before the election of Barrack Obama! The main theme of this book is that government is a nessecary evil at best, and at worst it is an all powerful juggernaut preying on YOU, which are its means of support. Atrocities are rarely if ever commited by individuals, but historically, attrocities are committed by governments the world over. GOD BLESS AMERICA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idiot didn&#8217;t even read the book! His entire review was about the jacket cover and the table of contents. There isn&#8217;t one comment about the book&#8217;s actual contents! Zalman Kelber, YOU ARE ONE OF THE MINDLESS DRONES THAT THIS BOOK IS WARNS US OF! You don&#8217;t have anything substantive to write about this book, because there is nothing within the book covers that you can refute! Join the rest of us in the real world, why don&#8217;t you? This is an excellent book, written before the election of Barrack Obama! The main theme of this book is that government is a nessecary evil at best, and at worst it is an all powerful juggernaut preying on YOU, which are its means of support. Atrocities are rarely if ever commited by individuals, but historically, attrocities are committed by governments the world over. GOD BLESS AMERICA!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Hirth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Hirth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most comments. I read books from both sides of thie isle and find it hard to find any that provide logical arguements rather then opinionated retoric, but this one is the exception.  So I ask the revewer not to judge this book by it&#039;s cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most comments. I read books from both sides of thie isle and find it hard to find any that provide logical arguements rather then opinionated retoric, but this one is the exception.  So I ask the revewer not to judge this book by it&#8217;s cover.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best damned review of a book jacket I&#039;ve ever read...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best damned review of a book jacket I&#8217;ve ever read&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Set in a boring and out-of-date looking font, it gives the book the look and feel of the most pedantic 17th century treatise.&quot;

&quot;Ultimately, Levin’s “conservative manifesto” seems far more George Bush than Thomas Jefferson.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Set in a boring and out-of-date looking font, it gives the book the look and feel of the most pedantic 17th century treatise.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ultimately, Levin’s “conservative manifesto” seems far more George Bush than Thomas Jefferson.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree one bit with the reviewer. I love this book and recommend it to all who want to grab a good read and learn something new every day.  I do agree with the others who said that the reviewer is criticizing the jacket of the book and not the writing itself other than the names of some of his chapters.  I want to point out at one point, where he is trying to make Mark Levin seem arrogant, he&#039;s actually contradicting himself.  At one point he says that the flag and his facial expression give the book a 1700&#039;s appeal, where at the end of the second to last paragraph, he says the cover looks more George Bush than Thomas Jefferson.  Which is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree one bit with the reviewer. I love this book and recommend it to all who want to grab a good read and learn something new every day.  I do agree with the others who said that the reviewer is criticizing the jacket of the book and not the writing itself other than the names of some of his chapters.  I want to point out at one point, where he is trying to make Mark Levin seem arrogant, he&#8217;s actually contradicting himself.  At one point he says that the flag and his facial expression give the book a 1700&#8217;s appeal, where at the end of the second to last paragraph, he says the cover looks more George Bush than Thomas Jefferson.  Which is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Srevan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Srevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book is great. If you have a brain and can look at both sides of an issue without being offended, then definitely read this book. Yes the book-jacket is kind of boring and maybe it is supposed to be a throwback to the days of the Founding Fathers to provide more credibility, but so what? It&#039;s just good marketing. And if it really does offend you that much and you really think the author is being arrogant, well just remember to not judge a book by its cover.

If you read the book you&#039;ll see that he does have good points. Conservatism might not be &quot;popular&quot; at Northwestern or among young people but there are still plenty of folks here that embody conservative principles and believe in its values,  even if the GOP isn&#039;t a perfectly precise representation of conservative values (for whatever reason). 

Stop hatin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book is great. If you have a brain and can look at both sides of an issue without being offended, then definitely read this book. Yes the book-jacket is kind of boring and maybe it is supposed to be a throwback to the days of the Founding Fathers to provide more credibility, but so what? It&#8217;s just good marketing. And if it really does offend you that much and you really think the author is being arrogant, well just remember to not judge a book by its cover.</p>
<p>If you read the book you&#8217;ll see that he does have good points. Conservatism might not be &#8220;popular&#8221; at Northwestern or among young people but there are still plenty of folks here that embody conservative principles and believe in its values,  even if the GOP isn&#8217;t a perfectly precise representation of conservative values (for whatever reason). </p>
<p>Stop hatin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: William P</title>
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		<dc:creator>William P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the reviewer.  Why should we cling to conservative views of property?  Liberalize the property laws, so that the ownership principle is destroyed, and hand over all this hack&#039;s property to me, at which point I&#039;ll submit it to the inferno cradling tyranny on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the reviewer.  Why should we cling to conservative views of property?  Liberalize the property laws, so that the ownership principle is destroyed, and hand over all this hack&#8217;s property to me, at which point I&#8217;ll submit it to the inferno cradling tyranny on the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Sajid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking people is not a liberal tendency, it&#039;s a partisan tendency. Read the signs at those tea parties from tax day, and you&#039;ll see that.</description>
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		<title>By: Jake Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This review is a prime example of the liberals&#039; tendency to attack a person rather than discuss the issues.  I have tried to find sources that disagree with the conservative point of view and illuminate the liberal point of view to gain a fair and informed opinion.  The problem is every liberal source I turn to demonstrates the tactic I have previously mentioned.  It is sad that one has to resort to rhetoric about someone&#039;s apparel rather than illustrating through intellegent review of what the disagreements are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This review is a prime example of the liberals&#8217; tendency to attack a person rather than discuss the issues.  I have tried to find sources that disagree with the conservative point of view and illuminate the liberal point of view to gain a fair and informed opinion.  The problem is every liberal source I turn to demonstrates the tactic I have previously mentioned.  It is sad that one has to resort to rhetoric about someone&#8217;s apparel rather than illustrating through intellegent review of what the disagreements are.</p>
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