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It’s the third and final presidential debate of the season, and anything can happen. From Hofstra University in New York, the two will supposedly focus on the economic crisis. But this is also one of the best opportunities for John McCain, who’s been slipping in the polls, to make his case that he’s the best man for the job. What will the last question of the debates be? Follow along with our live-bloggers and find out.
We asked our bloggers to summarize the debate in a haiku. Here’s what they came up with:
Matt
McCain got testy
but Obama kept his cool
Bob was big and strong
Jenny
John McCain is old
Obama can be a snore
Nobody fucked up
Lana
Obama stayed cool
McCain scowled, interrupted
But who’s Joe Plumber?
9:31 p.m.
Lana: Seeing the two of them next to each other just kind of bowls me over.
Jenny: So does “healthy” discussion.
Lana: That education question was an interesting way to end all the debates. The last question for Kerry/Bush was how strong women influenced their lives. I’m glad this one at least has something to do with the election
Matt: Strong women are always relevant!
Lana: Yeah but now Palin can represent all of them!
Lana: Damn it, he used the word fundamental
Matt: Obama is not getting much of a reaction. McCain’s story was much more personal, which was quite effective. Obama is being pretty vague and platitudinous.
Lana: There’s something new.
Matt: but, as always, when he says middle class, his rating shoot up.
Lana: “Go vote now. It’ll make you feel big and strong.” Best moment of the debate and it wasn’t said by either candidate!
9:28 p.m.
Lana: Did McCain just equate autism and Downs syndrome?! Oh. My. Goodness.
Matt: But how will we do that if we have a spending freeze?
Lana: Yeah, McCain really vetted Sarah Palin. He doesn’t even know what her kid has Downs syndrome.
LanaObama just looks so much more adult. he looks calm, and serious, and grown up, frankly. McCain cackles and shifts around and just looks like some angry middle school bully
Jenny: Vouchers aren’t working.
Matt: There will never be enough vouchers, there aren’t enough private schools, they won’t increase capacity fast enough. vouchers are good for some schools, but improving the public system will help the most people
9:25 p.m.
Jenny: No Child Left Behind. Oh, what a terrible idea. Did you know that Evanston HS has failed the past 3 years?
Matt: Isn’t it better that we know that, instead of before, when schools could be shitty and there was no way to evaluate them. Clearly, NCLB isn’t perfect, but some testing and evaluation has to be part of the program.
Lana: Women are big fans of educating the next generation.
Matt: Any of you read Freakonomics? The kids that get vouchers are doing the best anyway. Also, no voucher program is big enough to actually get people into better schools. Thirdly, it leaves behind all the special education kids and problem kids in the public schools, which screws over the vast majority of kids that attend public schools.
9:22 p.m.
Jenny: Well, it sounds perfect. More money for teachers. More programs for kids. Just, how do we make that actually work?
Lana: Wait, there are still children left behind? that can’t be right….
Lana: Wait, so being in the army automatically qualifies you to be a teacher? Nothing against the military, but that can’t possibly be right.
Matt: I mean, if you want to encourage people to enter the profession, you need to pay them more, that requires more spending.
Jenny: Wait. Obama didn’t go to a super great school. He didn’t grow up rich like McCain.
Matt: Something tells me that it was the GOP behind not fully funding special education….
9:19 p.m.
Lana: So the unborn get rights, but gay people don’t? McCain’s so just.
Matt: I dunno, he’s probably opposed to unborn marriage.
Jenny: And interracial marriage. He remembers those good old days.
Lana: Aw, this education question is depressing. Pretty much: how come we’re so stupid if we spend so much money on education?
Matt: I mean, sounds like a good question to me. DC public schools have remarkably high per student spending, yet their results are bad.
Matt: Wow, Obama is getting really high ratings for his education spiel.
9:15 p.m.
Lana: Partial birth abortion is a “bad, terrible procedure.” Umm, it’s an incredibly rare one that is done nearly exclusively in the case that a woman’s health is in serious jeopardy.
Lana: Man, Obama’s a witty guy. “If it sounds incredible… that’s because it’s not true.”
Matt: McCain is left handed. Did you know that during the middle ages, left handedness was considered a sign of the devil?
Matt: “Cavalier activity” sounds like a good time to me….
9:12 p.m.
Lana: It’s interesting to see that men and women are pretty much reacting evenly to this whole thing.
Matt: Aren’t all issues moral issues? I never understood the distinction between moral and other issues. Aaaaand the women are digging this.
Matt: Obama should talk about this more. The ledbetter case was very clear. She had gotten totally screwed and the conservative judges didn’t award her anything.
Lana: Obama’s defending my future paycheck? Gotta love the man.
Matt: “Statue of limitations.” Ledbetter didn’t know that she was getting paid less than the men. In McCain’s world, it would be near impossible for women to sue for equal pay.
9:09 p.m.
Matt: Wut woh! Abortion time!
Lana: The Supreme Court question is a good one. Some of those guys are getting gray around the ears
Matt: “I would never impose a litmus test.” Ummm, yeah.
Lana: Elections have consequences? No way. thank goodness for McCain’s wisdom.
Matt: Voted against Justice Breyer? BREYER WAS APPOINTED BY CLINTON! Did you mean Scalia? I think so.
Lana: Pointing out McCain’s mistakes is just being ageist. he has “senior moments,” remember.
9:06 p.m.
Lana: I thought we’re only supposed to trust non-partisan groups when they agree with our parties….
Matt: What point is unfair? The point is that the individual insurance market sucks and screws over those who have preexisting conditions. This is the big problem.
Benjamin: That is not his critique. Obama says that McCain’s plan is exerting a new tax burden…that is not necessarily true.
Matt: they will receive more money with the tax credit, but they will be in the individual insurance market which is more expensive, because there aren’t pools that get healthy and sick people together.
Lana: Do I get one with my insurance plan, or something? Because I am so voting for that candidate.
Jenny: … transplants are sometimes necessary to live. I’d like my insurance to cover that. I don’t think that’s like a boob job.
Lana: What money in our pockets? In this economy, that’s not all that much.
9:03 p.m.
Benjamin: Women are giving McCain bad marks for this
Lana: I’m so tired of Joe. Unless it’s Joe Biden with that dreamy smile….
Matt: OH WOW. McCain just looks shocked.
Lana: McCain looks so flabbergasted. “You just crushed my whole argument! NOOO!”
Matt: John McCain is like “what are all these numbers and policy details”
Jenny: Oh, I don’t mind when Obama says “You” straight into the camera to me.
Benjamin: His critique of McCain’s plan is unfair — non-partisan groups have labeled it untrue.
9:00 p.m.
Lana: It’s really hard to say no to paying less for healthcare. I’m not saying I approve of Obama’s total healthcare plan, but when he phrases it that way, it just doesn’t give McCain much to disagree with
Matt: Oh, Obama is talking about his health care plan. My heart is fluttering.
Lana: McCain’s talking about putting a band-aid on a severed limb.
8:57 p.m.
Matt: But really, this Columbia free trade agreement is a distraction. It’s a tiny agreement that won’t really affect anyone or anything.
Benjamin: It will affect Colombians.
Jenny: He needs the Hispanic vote in Colorado.
Lana: Even the polls have shown that his negative campaigning hasn’t worked. Can’t he learn from his mistakes and just become, oh, a little sweeter?
Matt: Women are not liking this stupid talk about Hugo Chavez. Which makes sense, cause it’s stupid.
Matt: Herbert Hoover also imposed a spending freeze in the midst of a recession. Sound familiar?
8:54 p.m.
Jenny: I should be angry, now. I’m Chinese.
Lana: “You really have to pay attention to words,” says McCain. Pot, kettle.
Matt: I mean, McCain is much more likely to, say, start a war with China.
Matt: It’s worth pointing out that these bilateral, two country free trade agreements are really just drops in the bucket. The Doha round was rejected and won’t be revived anytime soon.
Benjamin: The same government that is infiltrated by those tied to the Coke industry.
Lana: Look at McCain’s smile! He totally gets this look of “I did it! I used a zinger!”
8:51 p.m.
Lana: Plans only cost money when Democrats propose them, d’oh.
Matt: Clean coal technology, something of a crock.
Benjamin: No, Matt, the Canadians sell it to us at a special price… they throw in some maple syrup on the side.
Matt: “That’s about a realistic time frame.” Umm, no.
Benjamin: Obama is looking at the camera…great stylistic choice.
Matt: When Obama made that point about South Korea last time, all the Koreans in Hinman booed.
8:48 p.m.
Lana: McCain smiles whenever Obama uses logic, like it’s this quaint little practice.
Benjamin: That was not Biden’s idea. He wanted one country with three semi autonomous regions.
Lana: This is the closest Obama has come to losing his cool. He’s not interrupting or anything like McCain, but I think you can tell it gets under his skin
Benjamin: Schieffer is so senile… “Climate control”… That deserves a laugh.
Matt: OH WOW MCCAIN DOESNT UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS!
Benjamin: Does McCain know how much nuclear plants cost?
8:45 p.m.
Lana: Palin is a role model to women?! What?
Lana: Gosh I hope I grow up to be just like her. Or at least have her taste in glasses.
Matt: Notice how men like this talk about Sarah Palin…and women aren’t really feeling it.
Jenny: “She saw corruption and resigned.” I want a fighter, c’mon!
Lana: Because women are supposedly hoping that one day they can be appointed to political positions rather than voted into them.
Lana: Wait, Palin has gotten people who have never been involved in the political process to get interested? Wasn’t that Obama with his record-setting primary votes?
Matt: Obama is doing everything he can to avoid saying that she’s qualified to be president.
8:42 p.m.
Lana: I miss the Bush-Kerry debates. I can’t imagine McCain offering Obama some wood in this one.
Matt: A little background. Obama had challenged McCain to bring up Ayers to his face. Clearly, they had that answer prepped and Obama delivered it well. This isn’t true. Here’s Ayers explanation of what he meant in 2001: Ayers meant that the country and himself didn’t do enough to stop the vietnam war. This is unambiguously true….
Lana: I can’t believe McCain has the chutzpah to pretend that he’s actually focusing on the issues.
Lana: To bring us up to date: Obama and McCain have to justify how their running mates would make good presidents. Let’s see what McCain says…
Jenny: I don’t think we need to provide any witty retorts on this one. Palin speaks for herself.
8:39 p.m.
Jenny: “Destroying the fabric of American society…”
Lana: Obama just mentioned Northwestern! This is the best moment in our history as a school
Matt: ACORN “greatest fraud in voting history…destroying the fabric of democracy” This is total bullshit. Acorn pays people to register voters. Those workers will submit bullshit registrations to get more money. ACORN, by law, is not allowed to throw out any registration forms. So, you get “Superman” and “Tony Romo” registered to vote. These people don’t vote, there is no voter fraud. Registration fraud isn’t voter fraud.
Lana: Is McCain trying to get some shut-eye, or just reading notes?
Jenny: He’s using a Sharpie. I think this means he’s a huffer.
8:36 p.m.
Matt: Woah, those sighs of McCain are REALLY loud.
Jenny: Those are the death moans.
Benjamin: McCain is making me so angry. He is moaning and groaning because he is getting his ass kicked. Get over it. Stop acting like Obama is your grandchild. Stop making him the bad guy for Code Pink. Obama needs to pick up the pace, jump across the table, SOMETHING!
Matt: The point is that people are saying racist, offensive things about Obama at McCain rallies. And no one at the rallies is stopping them or showing disapproval. This is a problem.
Lana: I’m glad Obama is trying to get back to the point. It reminds me of Edwards during the Democratic primaries… before he became creepy.
8:32 p.m.
Jenny: DING DING DING! Obama + Economy = Love
Matt: Is anyone going to be impressed by McCain complaining about mean ads?
Benjamin: 1. Misportray is not a word…2. Why does McCain, the king of false ads, get to take the high road on these ads?
Lana: Ohio voters are reacting much more favorably towards McCain this debate than before.
8:28 p.m.
Lana: What a great question! Holding them accountable for their own campaigns.
Matt: Is Bob challenging the candidates to stop being such punks?
Matt: This is the lamest thing ever. Because Obama didn’t want to do town hall meetings, his VP said Obama palls around with terrorists. That’s not because of the lack of town hall debates.
Jenny: And wasn’t it McCain who threatened to not go to the first debate?
Lana: Shh, McCain can’t remember that.
Matt: “Obama has spent more money on negative ads than any political campaign in history” that’s because Obama has more money than any political candidate in history
8:25 p.m.
Matt: “Across the board spending squeeze all over America” That’s because states and municipalities can’t run deficits. The federal government can. In a recession, we have to. I hope that McCain understands that.
Lana: Hey now, it’s not the candidates who are supposed to ask questions, is it?
Matt: “Even Fox news disputes it.” ZING!
Matt: Actually, McCain hasn’t shown independence on torture. He hasn’t endorsed legislation to stop the CIA from torturing.
Lana: Wait, it’s the Republicans who tortured McCain?
8:22 p.m.
Lana: Wow, he had no interest in answering that question
Matt: “Balance the budget in four years.” There is NO WAY McCain can do that. That’s why he isn’t answering the question.
Lana: Hmm… actually, McCain kind of had a point. Obama’s relying a little too heavily on comparing McCain to Bush.
Lana: You can’t exactly “eliminate” spending. At best you can curtail it.
8:19 p.m.
Benjamin: He’s like Palin. Question is on the deficit, he wants to talk about home ownership… or energy… dontcha know.
Lana: Hey, he can’t use Obama’s scalpel!
Jenny: Obama has not opposed off-shore drilling — even though he should.
Matt: Defense spending cuts? I think there’s a war going on…. That stuff costs a lot of money.
8:16 p.m.
Matt: It would be nice if Obama mentioned that richest 1% are richer than they’ve ever been… I think they can pay more in taxes.
Lana: Why is Obama wearing a Republican-colored tie? Mistake!
Benjamin: Obama was doing better when he was looking at the camera.
Matt: OK, everyone, Keynesian economics time. When the economy is slackening, you need to increase demand. Because people are unsure of the economy’s strength, they are less likely to spend and invest. So the government needs to step in and stimulate demand by investing in infrastructure projects or by sending out checks. Otherwise, we get in a spiral of decreasing demand and decreasing growth. Hoover cut spending in the early 30s…that didn’t turn out so well.
Jenny: Someone should run on the platform of abolishing taxes.
Lana: Like Ron Paul? That ended well
8:13 p.m.
Lana: His 95% figure is wrong, according to factcheck.org. So I get sad every time he says it.
Jenny: They need to stop looking straight into the camera.
Matt: Isn’t that the camera’s fault?
Matt: “we need to spread the wealth around” this is why we’re seeing the highest inequality since the late 20s… “Why would you want to increase the taxes on anyone?” Oh, I dunno, so the government can pay for stuff?
Lana: I swear I see the devil on his shoulder egging him on
Benjamin: This Joe the plumber conversation is really condescending.
Do I call you McCain the geriatric?
8:10 p.m.
Lana: I love when Obama mentions the middle class
Matt: You and all the women watching debate the undecided women, of course
Lana: They’re my people. We’re in this together!
Lana: Although it creeps me out when Obama looks right into the camera
Jenny : It might just be the screen but it looks like McCain’s eyebrows are horns.
Matt: “This could be a giveaway to banks if we’re paying the full price for mortgages” good point. McCain’s plan is a giveaway to failing, corrupt banks. Obama’s is a giveaway to the vast majority of people. “He had an encounter with a plumber.” Was there any crack involved?
Lana: Did he just say “Joe the plumber”? I thought Joe was a six-pack.
Matt: Plumbers can drink too!